How can Americans go beyond their bubble and connect across the political divide? It’s April 2021, and Americans are divided. My guest today is Tania Israel, a Professor in the Department of Counseling, Clinical, and School Psychology at the University of California, Santa Barbara. In August 2020, Tania released her book Beyond Your Bubble, a practical, politically neutral book that offers concrete skills for holding meaningful conversations that cut across today's intense political divide, showing readers how to connect to the people in their lives. The book was featured in the New York Times, Washington Post, Ted Talks, and NBC’s The Today Show among other media outlets. In this episode we discuss how to improve active listening during contentious conversations, why face-to-face dialogue is so important, the key takeaways from the political workshops Tania hosts, and more. Whether you agree or disagree with today’s guest, I invite you to join us with an open mind as we work to heal the division on going beyond your political bubble.